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Episode 37 - Meet Them Where They're At

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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate

[00:00:50] Market Uncertainty & MSCI Exclusions

[00:34:14] Mike Green Article and the K-Shaped Economy

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Episode 37 - Meet Them Where They're At

Thank you to our sponsor, Swan Bitcoin.

We buy Bitcoin at Swan.com

[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate

[00:00:50] Market Uncertainty & MSCI Exclusions

[00:34:14] Mike Green Article and the K-Shaped Economy