The Hurdle Rate Podcast

Join Matt, Ben, Jeff, and Tim for an entertaining and informative weekly podcast cutting through conventional wisdom on Bitcoin, investing, and macroeconomics. Every Wednesday, this forward-thinking team delivers unique perspectives and innovative insights that challenge mainstream financial narratives, empowering listeners to make more independent decisions for their corporate or personal financial lives. Is Bitcoin your hurdle rate? New episodes every Wednesday!

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Episodes

7 days ago

Episode 46 -  Build The Structure
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:01:05] Kevin Warsh Named Fed Chair
[00:24:38] Clawdbots & Moltbook
[00:32:10] The Pref Only Model & Digital Risk
[00:44:05] Bitcoin as a Term Asset & What a Supercycle Means

Wednesday Jan 28, 2026

Episode 45 - Preferred Equity Demand
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:00:40] Does the Preferred Equity Present a Systemic Risk to Bitcoin?
[00:21:42] Strive + Semler: The First M&A Transaction in Bitcoin Treasuries
[00:33:30] IBIT Bitcoin Covered Call ETF
[00:41:51] Gold & Silver Price Action
[00:47:30] What is Japan Saying to the World Right Now?
[00:58:54] Bitcoin in an Action-Packed 2026

Tuesday Jan 20, 2026


Episode 44 - Digital Credit Clarity
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:00:56] Strategy’s Latest
[00:11:55] Credit Spreads Hit All Time Tights
[00:30:06] Coinbase Pulls Out of Clarity Act
[00:43:54] Matt Cole Corners the Bitcoin Treasury Podcast Industrial Complex

Tuesday Jan 13, 2026

Episode 43 - The Best Message Is Digital Credit
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:02:55] Strategy’s $1.25 Billion Orange Buy
[00:15:56] Michael Saylor on What Bitcoin Did
[00:39:58] Jerome Powell in Hot Water and Disenchantment with the Fed
[00:49:30] Trump Caps Credit Card Interest
[00:56:03] Strive Semler Merger

Tuesday Jan 06, 2026

Episode 42 - Pensions, Private Equity & Digital Credit
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0:00 - Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
0:55 - Strategy Gears Up for Massive 2026
12:10 - Looking Back at 2025: Year Zero in Digital Credit
30:12 - Capital Allocation and Pension Funds
50:18 - 2026 Outlook

Tuesday Dec 23, 2025

Episode 41 - Structurally Bullish
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:01:21] Reflections on 2025
[00:08:14] The Bitcoin Era
[00:18:12] Amplification and the Power of Compounding
[00:30:30] Do You Beat The Hurdle Rate of Bitcoin?
[00:53:04] Tim’s Review of Bitcoin Treasuries Big Year

Tuesday Dec 16, 2025

Episode 40 - Set Up For A Supercycle
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:02:08] The Latest on Bitcoin
[00:10:18] A Decade-Long Supercycle?
[00:19:47] OCC Greenlights Crypto Bank Charters
[00:26:14] Valuations
[00:34:48] Quantum Risks?
[00:40:15] MSTR Staying in Nasdaq 100
[00:43:57] Final Thoughts

Tuesday Dec 09, 2025

Episode 39 - The Hurdle Rate Is High
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[00:00:30] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:01:30] Bitcoin MENA
[00:22:53] Bitcoin As The Hurdle Rate
[00:37:27] Closing Thoughts

Tuesday Dec 02, 2025

Episode 38 - The Incentives Are Aligned
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:00:40] The Incentives Are Aligned
[00:10:50] MSTR’s Green Dots & USD Reserve
[00:46:16] STRC Dividend Rate Hike

Tuesday Nov 25, 2025

Episode 37 - Meet Them Where They're At
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[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate
[00:00:50] Market Uncertainty & MSCI Exclusions
[00:34:14] Mike Green Article and the K-Shaped Economy

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